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Economic Stimulus Payment - Child Support Questions
April 30, 2008 |
Many questions about the Economic Stimulus Payment keep coming up. Some of the most common involve child support. The questions fall into two categories: owing and receiving child support.
If You or Your Spouse Owes Child Support
The IRS will withhold your payment up to the full amount, if you owe back child support. If you file a joint return and one spouse owes child support the IRS can withhold the entire tax refund and the stimulus payment. Again, the IRS will take the husbands share, the wife’s share and any money for the children to pay child support. However, there is something you can do about it. See the Injured Spouse section below.
If You Are Owed Child Support
You could receive up to the full amount of the stimulus payment from the party that owes you child support. See the section above.
Injured Spouse Allocation
If the IRS claims all or part of your tax rebate or your economic stimulus payment because of money your spouse owes there is hope. You could file Form 8379 -Injured Spouse Allocation. This form notifies the IRS that you should receive money that was claimed to pay your spouses debt.
If you are determined to be an “injured spouse” the IRS will calculate your claim at up to 50% of the total stimulus payment. This means that the IRS will send you 50% of your stimulus payment even if your spouse (again usually the husband) owes money to the government or for child support.
Examples
From the Office of Child Support Enforcement here are some examples:
Example 1 - Jane and John Doe are eligible for a $1,200 stimulus payment. John is offset for child support for the full amount of the stimulus payment ($1,200). Jane files an injured spouse claim against the stimulus payment offset. IRS would reverse or adjust $600 (50%) from the $1,200 offset for payment since this is the maximum portion to which Jane is entitled as the injured spouse.
Example 2 - Jane and John Doe are eligible for a $1,200 stimulus payment. John is offset for $800, paying off his remaining past-due child support. IRS sends Jane and John Doe a check for $400 for the remaining amount owed from the stimulus payment. Jane files an injured spouse claim against the stimulus payment. IRS would only reverse $200 from the offset amount of $800 as this, along with the $400 already disbursed by the IRS, would be equal to 50% ($600) of the original amount of the stimulus payment prior to offset.
Example 3 - Jane and John Doe are eligible for a $1,200 stimulus payment. John is offset for $400, paying off his remaining past-due child support. IRS sends Jane and John Doe a check for $800 for the remaining amount owed from the stimulus payment. Jane files an injured spouse claim against the stimulus payment offset. IRS would not reverse any portion of the offset as the couple had already received more than 50% ($600) of the original amount of the stimulus payment prior to offset.
A “Fair” Solution for Everyone
In the end the IRS has to claim the money from those that owe child support or debts to the government. On the other hand, it’s unfair to take money from spouses and children, especially if they didn’t have anything to do with the debt. Hopefully this information will help people achieve a fair solution in their situations.
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I would just like to say that I was in the hospital for a while (2 wks with a doctors note stating I could only go back after a few weeks of rest at home)and lost my hours at my job. Then I petitioned the court so I could let them know that I didnt simply quit paying support by just not working anymore, rather, I was in the hospital with medical problems. By the time I was in court, I had since found another job (again, this was within a 2 month period)and finally was able to go to the social service blding. and let them know where I was now working and gave them $ for that payday. (You cannot call direct to your caseworker anymore and they make it very difficult to find out how one is supposed to handle these kind of situations. Hence the reason I petitioned the court in the first place!) Anyways, now since I took time off from work one day…to go and staighten things out and have my support come out of my paycheck from my new place of employment they informed me that my “back support” (from when I was in the HOSPITAL and immediately after) would come out in addition every payday along with my weekly support until it was paid in full! NOW, having said all of that, I really think it is unfair to take my “economic stimulus” check away from me (along with things like freezing my bank account!) so as to satisfy back support that could not have been avoided in the first place, when I am already paying the extra amount in my every paycheck as it is.!! I can understand deadbeat parents that do not work or pay support at all or continually “use” the system however, I am not one of them. I happen to be a mother who is more than willing to pay my share every week and make up for the times (that rarely happen) when I would have to make up for any back support. I just think its pretty stupid to take an economic stimulus paymt. and give it to someone who is already being paid back.
Here is my comment:
I am a full-time working mother of three kids. If I am sick or out of work, I support my kids. If my car breaks down, I support my kids.
What I find unfair is that a person can marry someone behind in child support and then cause back child support be held for up to six months until they decide if they want to file a claim against it. Meanwhile, the parent supporting the children still goes without new work shoes, so the kids can get what they need.
i was out of work for 3 months last year and got behind on my child support. they took my refund which was okay..but i do not think they should take my stimulus check too. i am paying every week plus extra to make up the difference… i feel like throwing my hands up!!!
It isn’t fair to hold onto my rebate because my husband owes back child support (this is another story in itself). Why should I have to wait and fill out paperwork to get something that is rightfully mine? I understand that he owes the child support, which has been comes out of his check every week, plus the extra to make up for the extra that is due. I have children that I have to take care of also.
Im on the other end of this situation…my ex owes me over $38,000 and doesnt file taxes at all so Im not getting anything. I know he is working but its under the table and no one will do anything to try to collect this support. He doesnt even call to check on his kids. My husband now pays child support every week, calls his son and sends money and gifts and makes trips to see him when we can. We live in VA and he is in FL. For years my husband refund was held. Even when he only owed $900 in VA, FL said he owed $3000 and they took all of his $4000 refund. Now finally we have got it all straight and he is ahead of schedule and FL and VA are working together.
While I sympathesize with those mothers who get NO support from the fathers… I am the wife on the fathers side and if you want to talk about F*D UP, we’ll talk about how the hubby loses all of his money to arrears due to time spent in prison, during which HIS mother cared for the child in question, and the mother of the child in question literally got off scott free.
Now he is STILL paying those arrears through weekly income AND taxes… EVEN THOUGH THE CHILD IS OUR DEPENDANT!!!!
Child support has promised him for 3 years now that they will ‘call it even’ afer taking his taxes that year, but they never do.
He spent 5 years in prison when he was younger and dumber, but the fact that child support (for welfare purposes) considered incarceration ‘involuntary employment’ led to a HUGE bill because they considered charging him $50/week would be easier than going after the mother of the child in question, who has never done a darn thing for any of her 5 kids.
Well let me tell you something… not ALL dads are deadbeats and there really should be some changes in the child support system that aren’t so ‘anti-fathers’.
That’s all
No I’m sorry, one more thing because I know someone will disagree with me. I personally think child support should work in favor of the child. Right?
So how are we supposed to support the dependants when child support takes all our damn money?!?!
OH MY GOSH!!!!!! Yeah i got a better one lol I married a man who has a child and over the years with him changing jobs or not making enough mind you he pays $470.00 a month for a five year old and makes only ten bucks a hour. He owed back child support. When we filled our taxes this year the irs took ALL of what he owed, but since it hasn’t went through the child support system yet it still shows he owes. Thats F in great because now child support gets our stimulus check. I have two girls, and I need that money!!!!!! Child support says in 6months one the system gets cleared up they will send us our money thats bull****!!!!! I’m telling you his x tries to steal the clothes off of my childrens backs!!! To be honest I hate her!!!! We can’t even see his baby girl we havn’t seen her since she was 6months old!! But he pays almost $6,000 a year for what????? EEEEWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!
Oh, see now I get to talk about the OTHER daughter he pays support for. The one that lives with us is his older one. The younger daughter, who now lives with her mother…. SIGH where to begin. 9 years old can tell you all about Prada and Gucci… guess who pays for that lifestyle. Trust me, it’s not her mother… her mother is just the one that won’t settle for less and it’s the child support system who makes it possible. Talk abotu hating exes… this bitch is the kind who will date and live with a complete asshole jyust casue he has a fat paycheck. That’s her though… whatever floats her boat though I wouldn’t approve of bringing a child ino that. IT was really messy when she had some ‘boyfriend problems’ and their daughter was able to live with us for 9 months. Wouldn’t you know it, the ONLY way she would let that happen is if he didn’t change anything about support. $50/week for 9 months….
im so glad that i will be getting off all dead beats money…its about time… i use to think that the system didnt work for single mothers, but i got his entire tax refund check and hopefully i will get his stimulus check…my child is 9 and he doesnt do JACK!!!!! Im laughing all the way to the bank….
I know it sucks but think about the parent that is taking care of the child…all the times that parent received NOTHING…because the other parent who has the child day to day gets nothing. No one is worried if they receive anything or NOT, doing their best to make a one person income stretch.
To those who marry and file jointly with spouses who owe back pay on child support….you have a 2 person income and not one to support your in house children.
Back pay is what it is….Money owed BACK to the parent who received nothing for months.
Most of them are not going to buy nothing extra for their kids with the Stimulus check…so why not give it to the person who has no choice but to spend it on the kids….the parent who has full custody of the kids….b/c their is light, rent, food, clothes that are needed on a day to day basis. Let’s not forget the extra things of who is there to give them that last minute money for a field trip or school project or when one needs to come up with co-pay and prescription money God forbid if they get sick. The parent who has the child always comes off the most unless the non-custodial parents big bucks.
Yet, this absent parents seem to have no job, but yet they eat, sleep, and dress every day with no job.
Well I married a guy 15 years my senior, so his kids were grown and gone from home when we married, I on the other hand had two small ones at home and an ex of my own not paying support.
My current husband’s oldest son passed away, he made a deal with his ex that he would pay the funeral if she waived the last few months of support on the youngest one…alas a deal was struck. Only thing is she didn’t have a right to make that deal because she spent her entire life on welfare (I have worked all my life even with my kids.)
So somehow he has to pay back that 2K (+) which was no biggie, but why does he have to repay every dime of welfare the lady drew her entire life? What? All of a sudden he owes 20K. The state says well once he fell behind in support they had the right to collect the welfare back. Money she would have drawn anyway as she always did even when he wasn’t behind. Does this even come close to making sense? I swear I think we should hire an attorney.
Well after 5 years of them taking ALL of our refunds and sending it to her or her welfare, I finally found out about the injured spouse form. So now I get to at least keep some right? I never understood taking money out of my little kids mouths to send to a woman who spunged of the system a lifetime and now has children pushing 30?
Okay so now hubby is sick and is drawing Soc. Security, but I still work (as I always have) so now because of my income level I have to pay tax on his income, but I typically get the entire refund….which I intentionally keep to near nothing as I am sick of them stealing my money. And the state meanwhile will apparantly get half this stimulus check (which is a whole different bag of crap, our economy has enough debt to contend with, lets add this to it?) But I don’t understand why they don’t use the same formula for the stimulus that they do for the tax refund, only seems fair to me. Oh well, you’d think this debt would be eventually getting paid off, not sure how they calculate it, that is the beauty of this screwed up mess, no one ever provides you a statement of what is left owing, they just keep taking and taking. You have to go in and keep requesting an audit to get any idea. And even they can’t explain what she drew and when? What I like best is she was able to draw welfare a lifetime, then get child support arrearage payments sent to her once the kids were grown and gone. Meanwhile my husband paid the arrearage and the welfare she drew. So she draws twice, he pays twice? Doesn’t make sense to me. Either he should owe the welfare or the support, not both, subtract one from the other.
I should have considered sitting on my butt my whole life and saddled my sorry ex with a huge debt that him and his new family would still be trying to pay. What a system we have! I always laugh and say yeah I pay back welfare that my ex’s wife drew for their kids. How nice!
I have a child I receive support for and my husband pays child support for one. So what comes in goes right back out! Anyway, they took our taxes this year which totally paid us up, we got a little behind which is fine, I know we owe it so pay it! Well, child support got the income taxes but hold them for 6 months, ok, this sucks but I suppose you have to deal with it so whatever! So, we were supposed to get our stimulus today and guess what? The IRS is going to send it to child support, since child support holds it for 6 months it still shows that he is behind so they get this money too! Thats not even right! If they receive the money they know its there and need to show it as paid even if they hold it for 6 months. My husband is fully paid up, still has to pay arrears and now they are going to take our stimulus too! Child Support needs to change the 6 month thing, everyone that owes child support knows they take their income taxes, if your married to someone that owes that child has not become your child too, forget the injured spouse paper! Just get it paid and over! That way the mother of the child thats getting the support gets her money so she can take care of bills and extras for the child and the payer don’t have to pay arrears for 6 freaking months! I always have thought child support was a load of crap. I had a friend he had the kids and his ex made decent money and only had to pay $20.00 total each months for 3 kids, not per kid, thats crazy.
In our case it’s my step-sons mother who won’t pay ANY child support. Then when it gets taken from her check she calls and begs for us to give it to her, we have never done so. She never paid any child support on her own. She sees her son 1x a month. We are supposed to get 900.00 from her taxes (which she called and asked us to give back to her)I can’t wait till we get her 300.00 stimulus check too….She thinks because she is a deadbeat MOM it’s ok to not pay….I can’t stand her…
Well, my husband owes back child support for birthing expenses that were initially paid by Medicaid. He has to pay it all back himself, $5,000 and she not a dime. He was the one that went to court (they had made arrangements without the state but he was scared he would get screwed with more if nothing wasn’t “legal”). He can’t even go to Canada, like a crimal, although he has paid everything. It is horrible to say, but it makes me understand why someone would want to be a dead beat dad. Why would things not be equal? Why would he be responsible solely to repay the state?
I am a single mother of three children. My ex husband owes me over $16,000 in child support. He just started paying weekly through probation in my County. His tax return has been taken this year and thank God his stimulus payment will be taken too. All of these men/women who are complaining about their stimulus payments being taken away for child support. How do you think the custodial parent of the child felt when he/she was getting absolutely nothing to support the children that the ex spouse also brought into the world. And these women who say that their stimulus payment is being taken away because their husband/wife owes child support. What is wrong with you people? You married them. You knew they had children. You (I hope) knew that they owed money for child support. I would hope that you would want your stepchildren taken care of!! Put yourself in the shoes of the custodial parent. How would you like it if you were left to raise children on practically nothing? What gives one person the right to walk away from children and think that they don’t have to support them? What gives another person the right to think that because they are married to someone who was a deadbeat at one time (or still is) that it shouldn’t affect them. For better or worse sweetheart. You marry them, you marry their problems too!!! I am looking forward to getting my ex-husband’s stimulus check. Now maybe I can purchase summer clothes for the boys.
[...] this is just an estimate, your actual payment amount may vary. For instance if you owe child support or back taxes, the government (IRS) will take the amount you owe out of your stimulus payment. [...]
Okay, I have seen enough of these emails that I just have to post one more comment. Apparently there are certain mothers who didn’t quite grasp my point.
I firmly believe to the fullest extent that BOTH parents should be involved in EVERY POSSIBLE WAY with the children they produce, and this INCLUDES the financial aspect.
I also believe there are MANY faults in the way the child support system is designed.
For one, not ALL fathers are deadbeats. Yes, many are… but treating every case ‘on paper’ with the assumption that the father is a deadbeat is a very weak system to use.
For two, not all mother financially support their children. It is very difficult for a father to gain custody of his child, EVEN IF HE CAN PROVE the mother is unfit. In too many cases have I seen firsthand a child being raised poorly, a fathetr that could take better care of their child, and a mother taking money from that father to pay for her own personal addictions while denying visitation from the father simply because she can. Is this fair? no. But this is how the system works.
Everybody has their own story to bitch about. If you are a single mom who gets no help from the dad, you have every right to bitch about your situation but not all situations are like yours. The men really do get shitted on by the entire system.
The case that I bitched about displayed more than my husband being screwed over by the child supoprt system. The children were hurt as well. But no matter, because we just work harder to take care of those children.
What about the deadbeat moms that get away with bloody murder? What about the children that are used as ‘bait’ for ‘free money’?
All I am saying is that there are some severe faults in the child support laws.
I have 2 children from 2 different men, my oldest daughter I was only awarded $50 a month from him but at least he pays. When he did owe back child support (didn’t pay for a few months) we got it from his tax refund.
My youngest daughter is a whole different matter. Her father owes almost $40,000.00 once in a great while they’ll catch him at a job (she’s 10 1/2 and I’ve only received 12 payments of child support from him and no where near the full amount owed each month). He constantly changes jobs and never files taxes so I get neither his tax refund or stimulus payment (though I should for the oldest, he’s just a wee bit behind).
I’ve never denied the fathers access to their children. But not once have they ever visited them or even sent a simple birthday card (that would probably mean a lot more to them than presents).
At least the oldest’s dad calls once in a great while and even contacts her via MySpace.
The other one… pfft… he’s a lost cause.
I am reading all of your comments and I agree with all of them. My husband supported his 3 children and his ex for a year after they divorced. Payed her 400.00 amonth and what ever they needed for 4 years. He kept all reciepts. She was not satisfied. She took him to court and stated that he gave her nothing for that 4 years. So the judge would not except the receipts. So he had 4 years at 605.00 a month of back child support!
He pays 605.00 a month plus insurance and co-pay. He has not griped. Plus tax returns.
She is an RN she makes twice as much money as he does. She has New cars every year. He pays for the kids a cell phone on our plan.(which is over 300.00 a month)
Because she cant keep a phone.
NOW his daughter is 18, she has been taken off child support, which the price has not changed at all.
Also she wants more so she is taking him back to court.
I have a 2 year old with him, She says that my child does not matter.
We have to live with family and drive piece of shit vehicles so she can be happy.
oh and she wants him to buy his kids cars too.
With what?
He is not a dead beet dad, I am filling for injured spouse, my son deserves that much.
She gets everything else!
I was the “single mother.” I’ve walked in the shoes of the mom looking to get child support and didn’t get it. I did need a roof, food, utilities and transportation for myself as it was. Yes, with a child I had to upgrade in home size a little. Most food that you buy comes with at least 2 servings. So pretty much I was responsible for child care and clothing. Child care is pricey (and tax deduction) but as far as clothing goes, E-Bay is great when you buy clothes in lots or even go 2nd hand. They’re kids, they’ll mess up their clothes anyway.
I ended up marrying the father of my child after 5 years of seperation and a major attitude change. He has 2 other kids that he too, owes back support on and now that has become my problem also(the support not the kids). We now have 4 kids together (like married people do) and we don’t get much of anything because of the back support. He has been regularly paying the child support for years now and extra for arrears. I stay home with our kids because it is cheaper than daycare/work and my husband is working 2 jobs to support $650/mo. in child support + insurance, and a family of 6. My work being a full time mom of 4 doesn’t mean squat to the IRS so it won’t help much with the Injured Spouse allocation and we haven’t received much by way of tax returns in years. He doesn’t get to claim his boys for taxes (she gets that $). We don’t get the child tax credit or earned income credit for our children. Our kids don’t get anything. Our 4 kids don’t cost us $650/mo. combined. And now the stimulus payment. It’s $300 per kid? Uhhh…they probably won’t see that either. There have been thousands of $$ intended to go to OUR children as child deductions/credits. Meanwhile, his boys are living in a high cost area wearing name brand clothing, going to amusement parks and playing PS3 and Wii because their mother has remarried, our kids are wearing hand me downs and we’re grocery shopping for a family of 6 on about $150/mo. When will MY kids get a break??? We don’t qualify for food stamps because my husband makes $30/mo. too much before they’ll take out the deductions ($650 child support).
There are MANY situations. People say, “I chose to marry him.” I did know that he had other children, I had one of them. I know that he had child support, I had one of those kids to support. I chose the “Dad” over the money. I also chose LOVE over money. Once again, MY CHOICE, not my kids. Start giving them what they have owed to them for crying out loud! I love my step-kids and I do want them to have good lives but not 10 times better than my kids. It needs to be fair among all.
I’ll stop ranting, now. Thank you!
Yea well. Ive been on both sides . I currently owe child support so it appears my stimulus check (that was supposed to help get the ecconomy out of debt, by me spending it) Will be claimed by NJ. Its typical. If my kids where even seeing it I’d have no problems with this. HOWEVER , They do NOT . My mother has 2 of my boys . She recieved help from the state for 6 years , at 150 a month , In 2007 the help stopped when she moved out of NJ . A third son has been adopted since 1999 when he was 1 yr old, I was billed at 45 a week until Dec of 99. As of now , NJ says I owe 28000 for the boys my mom has and 12000 for the one that has been adopted. I’ve had some health issues in the past years that has kept me from working your normal Jobs. Some payments. However have been made. Now I dont claim to be good at math BUT something does NOT add up. NJ will only discuss this if i go to NJ and file a motion.. Hello! I do work. I cant just take off to go on a trip to NJ to wait to be heard.
Anyway. Now for the other side. My Girlfriend has an 18 year old Daughter who’s father left when she was 2. Since then he has payed, close to NOTHING. His rights where finally removed when she was 7. However , To this day we have seen NOTHING from him. He has geen in jail atleast 1x for this. But still we seen NOTHING. We have recieved 300 a month x 24 months for Family aid from the state. He was supposed to be paying 45 a week. SO what i ask is why does none of this make sence? My opinion in this is the whole child support sytem needs a serious overhawl (Hope thats spelled right). Regardless. Something needs to be done to help people both get what they deserve and be saved from paying what they should not be!
How sad it is child support is not monitored better. My husband also was out of a work for a period and didn’t have support taken directly out of his paycheck anymore. By the time I got a hold of anyone in the office we had fallen behind on support. Which is ridiculous in itself being the mother as well as us, have custody of one child, but we pay her the support. She does not contriubute her 50% of medical etc. that relys on us. The back support was settled with state refund, however because child support processes whenever they feel like it, they also intercepted my federal. Then I had to wait 2 months for the overpayment. I would have waited longer but I e-mailed the director directly. I couldn’t get any response from a not so friendly worker through the hotline. Not everyone is a dead beat dad. The system just doesn’t work. Now where is my stimulus. I imagine it will once again sit with the child support office because they failed to communicate and lift the interception off of my taxes. Oh how I love child support!
Again I say to everyone who is complaining about child support — How would you feel if you were in the mother’s shoes that had to support them. These men are now divorced for whatever reason. They have to pay child support. Period. End of Story. It was their choice to remarry and have more children. Nobody ever said it was easy supporting two families, but if you didn’t want to support two families, why did you have two families? The new family children suffer because the husband has to pay support to his ex? What about the children of the first family? You’re not getting your stimulus payment because your husband owes back child support? He owes it for a reason. For that 12, 24 or 48 months that he didn’t pay, someone fed, clothed and put a roof over his children’s head from his first marriage/relationship. It wasn’t him. There will always be bitterness or resentment between the first family and the second family, but the bottom line is people, if a man owes the money, he owes the money. I, as I said before, am glad to be getting my extra $600 from the government for his stimulus.
My biggest point is those custodial parents who use the system to THEIR advantage. Bring a good parent means more than just FINANCIALLY supporting your children, so why would parent restrict the noncustodial parents parental rights over a money problem? That child needs both parents in their life, and even if the noncustodial parent can’t give enough money to satisfy the needs (OR wants) of the custodial parent, that child is being hurt when the custodial parent says “well you can’t see your kid”.
IF for any reason I were to not end up with the man I married, I wouldn’t want him to pay me any money. I would just want him to keep being a dad. The rest I can do myself. Those parents who do it all themselves should pat yourself on the back for it, not bitch about how much money you should get paid for it. It’s all for the children anyways, and having those parents who AREN’t deadbeats but just can’t afford to pay $100 a week shouldn’t be treated like they are deadbeats. At least they do what they can!
I am a disabled single parent of two girls. i am dealing with a man who has never seen his youngest at all, who is now 7. He is over $30,000 behind in back child support. I just got support re-established because back in October he looked me up on my myspace page, and stupid him, he gave me all his information, where he was living, and working, and was still angry at me over him losing $3,000 tax refund to me 6 years ago.
I printed up his messages via Myspace as well as his page, and I turned all of it over to the local prosecutor’s office. Two months ago, his wages began getting garnished, over $500 a month. You know what I say to that? GOOD!
So now he is whining that he got notice that his stimulus payment is coming to me. I have been taking care of the kids, the door was always open for him to visit. He made the choice not to visit, not to pay a dime, and to leave the state with no traces of him whatsoever.
I often ran out of food, wore rags for clothes, and couldnt do anything for the kids, and he was on his myspace page bragging about all the places he went to, etc, and had himself listed on many dating sites.
Then, when they recently started taking the support money out, he had the audacity to say that ‘boo-hoo he has just $200 to live on for the month. you know what, I dont give a crap. I had $10 in my bank account by the middle of the month, he sure as heck didnt care about his kids.
To the girlfriends/wives of men who dont pay child support. You decided to marry or date them, STAY OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF THE CUSTODIAL PARENT. you werent there when the child was conceived, you have no say in any matter that involves that child. Nadda! Nothing.
I hate with a passion dealing with current girlfriends who feel it is necessary to call me and scream and yell that their boyfriend or husband has no money to live on. I dont care what you think of me. I am the one worrying about my children, and getting them where they need to go.
So to the wives and girlfriends who want to complain that their boyfriend/husband is not getting their stimulus payment because of child support owed….GET OVER YOURSELVES!
The utility companies, etc didnt care that I didnt have money in a given month. I could not give them a sob story of how I only had x amount of dollars left once I paid them. They didnt want to hear it.
So, I dont want to hear the whining, name calling, nasty phone calls and letters from a current girlfriend or whatever that their boyfriend/husband is being robbed essentialy. I
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I DON’T CARE!
So listen up girlfriends and wives…you want to get mad at someone? Get mad at the man you are with……not the custodial parent. If you are stupid enough to marry the guy you marry his problems too.
Im going to gladly accept any stimulus payment, and laugh all the way to the bank and then with my girls in tow to the nearest store to get them all the clothes they want–why? Because they deserve it.
I have zero sympathy for any man who makes the choice not to see his kids or be responsible. Then he makes the choice to date someone else and make it that person’s problem telling lies and causing friction for the custodial parent.
so, again, my door is open for the father of my children—their girlfriend or wife is never welcome at my home if they disrespect me.
Well, lets see my situation. after a motorcycle accident that put me out of work for a year, and homeless, my son’s ( of which i see every single visitation )mother decided that wasnt enough, she filed failure to pay contempt charges on me. had me sent to jail for 2 months. got out to be told my total amount of arrears was 6,000 dollars had to fight to get to see my son again. paid off my arrears to the dollar and kept up my current support, still to this day… ohh did i mention i got a letter from the prosecutor 2 days ago saying i owe 5,460 more dollars, and their going to be filing for contempt charges , for money that no one knows where the amount came from. I have been there with and fighting to see my son since day one, and no matter the name she calls me in front of him, the lies she tells the judge, or the 180 miles i have to drive ( because she says drop off and return is my job ) on wednesdays to see him for an hour, looks like more courts for me, more laywers fees for things i didnt do wrong, and more missed irs checks….. my name ( to him at least ) will ALWAYS be dad and i will not give up…………there are some very good dads out here
Did you ever think about the woman that cheated on the husband/boyfriend and that is why they are no longer together? I for one, and I was a single mother for a long time, think that if the woman cheats on the man, and wants to take the kids, she should be responsible 100%!If you no longer got along or whatever, fine, get a divorce, breakup whatever, dont cheat! My husbands Ex cheated on him with a man with a lot of money and left thinking her life would be better, didn’t work!! Another thing, sometimes backsupport can not be helped as in Shaynes case! Was it his fault he was in a motorcycle accident that put him out of work for a year? No, and what did child support do? They turn around and put him in jail!How is he expected to even work and try to pay child support if he is in jail? The child support system is good if they had their shit together! No, they don’t! My husband was out of work for awhile because he hurt his back and they took his Tax return which totally paid him up! I DONT CARE, I am glad its paid! The money needed to go to his son and it shouldn’t take 6 months for it to get to him! My problem is they think their going to turn around and take the stimulus check when he don’t owe any money! As a matter of fact, child support owes him money! Do you see them sending it back to us? Are we able to take them to court and make them pay arrears or send them to jail because we don’t get our money? NOPE! Child support needs to get the system in better working order! When taxes are taken to pay child support up then it needs to go directly to the custodial parent, not sit and collect them interest! There should be no such thing as Injured Spouse when you marry a man that pays child support then you should know that if he gets behind his taxes will be taken! If you don’t like it file seperate taxes claim your kids yourself that way you get what your kids deserve and your husband is paying his debt on his own! I’m happy for the parents that are getting income taxes and the stimulus payment checks for child support that is owed back! Remember, there is no need to be nasty to eachother in front of the children, you should not bash the non custodial parent in front of your children even if they have done you wrong, the child will decide what they want to think of the other parent without your help! Its not good for the children to be put in the middle! When my sons dad got a new girlfriend I was a little jealous but I didn’t put her out and treat her like crap! I actually treated her with respect and decency for my sons sake! Get over it already! I would also like to say that if the non custodial parent has other chlidren now that don’t make them any less deserving! They didn’t do anything and should not have to suffer and do without either!
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My boyfriend has joint custody of his 4 year old daughter. He pays his child support every single week, although I do not feel like he should have to. He has her 50% of the time, and it was decided that he is 70% financially responsible for her while her mother is only 30% financially responsible for her. Why should he be punished just because his daughter’s mother refuses to get a better paying job than one at Wendy’s 10 hours a week. She keeps popping out kids she can’t afford to take care of. She’s living off of the welfare system. But let’s punish him for that right? He was at first ordered to pay her nearly $100 a week. He went to court and they lowered it to $57 a week. He is currently paying $67 a week because the CSEA screwed up and did not were not taking his support out of his check because they kept saying they had no employer on file.
This woman is living the life of luxury. He pays for and maintains insurance on the child and also pays the copay for any doctors visits or procedures she may have done. The mother gets a welfare check every week, food stamps, $67 a week in child support, low income housing, and her weak Wendy’s salary. She also lives with her boyfriend whom we are almost positive is also collecting from the welfare system. He too works minimal hours at a fast food place.
We are sitting here making less money than both of them and we both work full time! She sees nothing wrong with collecting that money and she even thinks she should get more! They took his state to catch up on the few months that he got behind, and now he will lose most of his stimulus too. We have bills to pay, they don’t. She even has the nerve to say that my boyfriend does nothing for his daughter and then complains and harasses him when he (god forbid) buys himself something. Not to mention the fact that I rarely see his daughter come over with new clothes, shoes, or anything that they have bought her. The mother has bragged that she will pay her boyfriends car insurance with it if she wants to. It makes me physically ill. I only the other hand just blew my whole stimulus check buying my 3 year old son and his daughter new clothes for summer time.
I forgot to add that my son really DOES have a deadbeat dad. I never get more than $20 a week in support when he has only been ordered to pay me $150 a week because he is 31 years old and will never hold a real job. He does not even have his license. Just this week I only got $3 in support. He has only seen my son a handful of times, and those times were usually at court. He has a warrant out for his arrest. I know exactly where he is but would good would having him arrested do me? I wouldn’t get ANYTHING then! Going to jail is like a vacation for this man anyway!
Well, hopefully I will get his stimulus. I only got his state tax return this past year. He owes me $4,000 all together now.
In cases like mine, I can see why tax returns are taken away from losers like my son’s father. But in my boyfriends case, it’s just absurd.
The CSEA needs to stop punishing GOOD parents based off of the behaviors of the BAD parents! They really do very little to help people dealing with a deadbeat collect their money.
There is too much stigma attached to child support now. When my boyfriend says something to someone about his child support, they automatically think he is a deadbeat daddy when he’s the exact opposite! I’ve never seen a better father than he is, and he has her %50 of the time, if not more than that somes weeks!
The child support system needs reformed! Something has got to be done!
The moral of the story is this…. You (usually fathers, but not always) will be punished by the system for wanting to have something to do with your kid. It’s either pay the mom to be a part of your child’s life, or get the hell out and pay anyway. It is really nothing more than a way for the states to collect more taxes and I hope that someone takes charge to start changing things in this country. Especially for father’s rights.
To MARSHA. AMEN to that. Let’s see what the “new wives” and “new girlfriends” of the ex-husbands and boyfriends have to say when they find themselves supporting that guy’s children because the relationship ended with him. Until you have had to support children physically, emotionally and financially ALL BY YOURSELF, you have no business preaching about what unfair is. Fair is getting his stimulus check. I might even have some left over after buying the boys clothes to get a pedicure.
I too deal with a deadbeat Dad. Nothing like after months of nothing, I get a check for $7. then for the next 2 weeks, 2 more checks for $7. Then I get one for $49. WOO HOO! Nothing now in the last 5 months. The state scheduled him for a hearing with the threat of being arrested and so forth. Well, it didnt scare him too much…he was a no show. All he got was a letter stating he was ordered to pay me directly $215. a month til arrearages were paid in full. Well, that didnt scare him either. I didnt even get one of those $7. dollar checks to insult me with. Now hes been called back to court for a contempt hearing. I say he doesnt show. My frustration is, why arent they attaching his wages? Why arent I getting his refunds? If you look back in the child support website, you see that multiple times his wages were ordered attached, and the very next day ordered terminated. A week later, the same thing again. The list goes on and on. Only a judge can do this, why would this be taking place?
Feels good to vent frustration, thanks for listening. Those of you that get the tax refunds, and stimulus payments, are you being informed before hand, or is it a surprise?
Melanie,
Im in the same boat. Only my ex keeps hisself hidden by working under the table so they cant track him. He doesnt call and check on his kids and he owes $40,000 as of the 1st of May. We are scheduled to go to court on the 13th but they cant find him to serve him so he wont show so whats the use? Just thought I would let you know I know how you feel!!!
I pay over $1500.00 a month in child support. The “ex” makes under $21,000 a year and ends up at the end w/ 3times the “net” pay that I do. I lost my whole tax return as for the first time in 6 years I ended w/less than 300 in arrears. Now, I am losing part of my Economic Stimulus as I am less than $100 in arrears due to the way my employer pays us.
I am penalized and the Stimulas does “nothing” for me. My “ex” is the deadbeat as she refuses judges orders to get a better paying job. The last two kids are over 16 yoa. I could really use that money, not her. It’s sad when the kids make more money than she does a year. Being in Law Enforcement, I despise “deadbeat dads/moms” and arrested them whenever possible, those and domestics. I just feel penalized for no legitimate reason.
I am glad that I will receive his stimulas check. I am owed over 7000. I have been more than paitent and understanding. I know times get tough. However my son’s monthly medical bills,school clothes,extra activites does not stop if times are tough. I work a full time job, and a part time and college 15 creidits per semester, and manage to take them to baseball,and Karate. Suck it people who owe up and help out your children. Get another job. Sell AVON like do on the side to pay my sons prepaid college fund payment!!!!!!!!!!
Just because you stop payment does not mean the child’s bills stop!!!!!!!!!!
I have a heart and understand sh@t happens. Do something about it like we have to.. don’t just stand there. I just hope I do not have to wait 180 days to get it like I had to when his regular check got intercepted. They have to wait a alooted time before relaseing it you. Which is a line of crap, since I have already been waiting for him to pay lol
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Ladies and gentalmen who take care of there children by payments or being the residenal parent . Bravo.. you know you value your children emotionally and finacally.
I personally learned along time ago not to think of child support as a way to pay monthly bills.
This is a mistake most people make.
You could not count on them when you were together so what makes you think you can now?
When I get a check it is like a surprise bonus or secret lottery win! lol ..that is how I look at it. If I waited for his check I would be living on the streets.
As far as the new wifes or girl friends. you should be mad at him or have concerns that he was not honest with you by not disclosing his debt. You should also be concerned that he does not value or take care of his own child. Remmeber there is always to sides of the story. It really does NOT matter how or why they broke up. The CHILD should not suffer in any way due to adults.
You should also be concerned if you have a child with him , you could be the next single mom waiting for some help from him.
**Do you really think anyone expects to get divorced or that he/she would not help with there own child?
Ok here’s my situation. I have my taxes taken for child support. I’m a mother of 3. My daughter is the one who gets child support taken from my taxes and for the most part I dont mind . HOWEVER. I think its bullshit. Not that she’s getting the money but how its being used and the situation in which she ended up living with her father.
Oh here we go. About 4 years ago my daughters father developed a horrible heroine addiction and decided to check himself into rehab but had a 3 day wait, well he went into serious withdrawl and the hospital called his mother cause apparently she was his emergency contact. Well his mother came up here from 300 miles away where she lives and picked him up and grabbed my daughter and “promised” that she would bring her back at the end of summer. Well lo and behold she didnt bring her back and used intimidating tactics to make me feel that I was in the wrong and my daughter was better off down there. I know I should have just called her BS and got my daughter but at that point she decided she wanted to say with her daddy. Well I drive all the way to where they live with his mom and aunt and pick my daughter up. No one will meet me half way. I am a stay at home mom and I just recently remarried this past year. I am raising my son from a previous marriage and my current husband and I have an infant. I dont get child support from my sons father as he passed away last year. The buerau of child support where my daughter is keeps adding more and more money to back support and is taking my rebate check and my tax refunds but there was NEVER any court date to appoint my daughters father as the custodial parent. Oh and about how they use the money down there. They buy frivoulus things and are going to let her spend 2 grand of the child support I pay to go swim with dolphins. I think thats rediculous. I pay for her school clothes (I personally take her shopping) I send money for school trips. I put her on my health insurance thru my husband and they turned their noses to it saying that she gets medicaide so they dont need our insurance. Is that even legal? I guess I’m just sick of feeling like they’re spending her support on things that aren’t helping her while I am barely scraping by with my own bills with my husbands income. I know it would be easy to say that I should just get a job but with what daycare costs I really wouldn’t be making any more money. I adore my daughter and visa versa and I see her as often as I can afford to drive all that way and pick her up and bring her home for a week here and a weekend there. I am an involved parent.
I am a bit confused.
My ex dead beat owes us over 20k still. I have only recently started to recieve child support since August because he is another of the state hoppers that worked for quite a long time under the table. I think the judge scared him the last time he was finally caught (yet again) because he is all of the sudden paying.
What ever reason …I got his tax refund. The last two digits of his social security code is 61. When do I see his stimulus check? I cannot check the website because I do not know when and how he filed.
My daughter has never even met him and she is almost 10 this year.
I have my child support direct deposited into a Mastercard scheme (Florida). I know I should get it but when?? If he did not owe child support it would have gone directly into his bank account May 9th. But since I am getting it, when is it being sent?
I personally do not get a stimulus check, and not because I sit on my rear all day but because I no longer live in the states. I moved to England where yes I work 50 plus hours a week and pay all kinds of lovely taxes here yet cannot claim my daughter for several more months because of our visa’s. Calling Child Support can be a nightmare, waiting in a queu for sometimes 40 minutes plus. SO without any more whining…can someone point me in the right direction to where it states how and when stimulus for back child support will be sent out?
Ti,
There is really no good way to tell when/if you’ll get his stimulus payment. There are so many factors involved.
People who HAVE all the tax information and forms are finding it difficult to get this information.
If I find any more resources or information, I’ll certainly post it on this site.
Thanks
Ti:
In response to your question, the government will intercept his stimulus payment because he owes you back child support. When it is intercepted, they must send a notice to your ex letting him know that it has been intercepted. He has 30 days to provide a valid reason why it should not be intercepted (which, of course, he has none). You will probably receive it within 60 days of May 9th or when it was issued to your ex-husband.
Thank you. I braved calling the Internal Revenue Service and the girl whom I spoke to (that barely had a grasp of the english language) was not familiar with the stimulus at all. I had to explain to her what it was!
Rather appalling when you call a government agency.
Needless to say, she was not very helpful at all. If I had a picture of her I would bubble above her head a large question mark! What a ditz!
I guess I should not be spending money that I am not sure I am going to get huh??!!
Sadly though, patience is not one of my virtues.
Total BS…thats what the interception of the stimulus check is….its not enough that I have to live on scraps because most of my money goes to child support. Its also not enough that my entire tax return gets intercepted and sent to a the mother of two children that I have absolutely nothing to do with other than financially of course(how the hell am I supposed to see them when they live in Florida and I cant even afford the freaking gas to get to work let alone fly down there from PA where I live or fly them up here). Now this stimulus check which I was hoping could get me some new clothes and such which I cant afford to do on my regular salary, is also getting intercepted….thats just great. Thanks alot to all the parties involved in keeping me living a life of poverty and not allowing me even a little bit of extra money for ANYTHING…I hope you all burn in hell.
Such bitterness.
And here are mothers struggling to just keep a roof over their head and some kind of decent food in their kids belly, walking most places because we cannot afford the gas for the car nor the insurance or repairs to even keep it running.. and finally…FINALLY gets something to help raise the child(ren) and NOT recieving Gov help.
Don’t want kids?
Get snipped.
Don’t want the financial burden of paying for something you CHOSE to not see or take care of?
Then invest in condoms.
Or better yet, learn the meaning of celibacy.
I have no remorse or pity for you.
I never wanted children, but I am a mom. I would not trade my daughter for the world. I love her unconditionally. I just pity her because one day she will want to meet the dead beat who helped create her. I do not regret my child, I regret her father who cannot grow up.
Stop your whining.
And just a fyi..I worked all through the pregnancy, I worked two weeks in labour, and I went back to work against medical advice as soon as I was able so that I would not have to rely on anyone else to help me.
I went without for years. Now I am able to give to my daughter things she did not have growing up.
If your kids who you cannot see mean anything to you, maybe you should think about moving closer to them, get a real job instewad of flipping burgers and become the dad you should be and not regret when they are older wiser and full of bitterness because dad was not there to see them play soccer or go to their dance recitals.
Noone told you to live in poverty, that is the life YOU choose to live.
I feel its unfair if a couple (only one is owning back child support) to split the stimulus check right down the middle. That is essence means that I am not getting credit for a stimulus myself or one of my own kids is not. He is only entitled to 300.00 (alone) not the total 600.00 (half) that they are offsetting. What the heck is up with that? I’m all for supporting children…but at the expense of whom.
I am a single mother of three children. I have always worked. I have ALWAYS provided for my children. I pay a high price for a 4 bedroom home so they can have there own rooms. I maintain insurance on them, even when I put myself through college a few years back (I worked double shifts on the weekends they were with my ex to pay the bills and went to school full-time.)
My ex ends up being behind every year for one reason or another. He isn’t what I would call a dead beat as he does care about the kids. But, you know what, he owes me the money per court order. I support the kids even when I am sick, or my car breaks. I would love to take a vacation but first I have to pay school fees, clothes, activities, etc.. I am sitting in front of my computer today, my day off work, instead of doing something relaxing for me because this morning I sent my last $10 with my son on his feild trip.
I fight with utility people if my pay date lands wrong. I get very creative with meals when a child support check doesn’t show or is late. And, yet, he takes the kids out to eat when he sees them.
He is the fun one, I am the responsible one.
So, all you whiny deadbeats (men and women both).. KNOCK IT OFF AND THINK OF THE KIDS. That’s what I do EVERYDAY (and not just when I have to fork out money for them which usually is everyday.
Statistics are now showing that this stimulus rebate will be able to collect from deadbeat parents approximately 750 million dollars. And that thats estimated at only 38%. Pretty sad isnt it. So, I say if some people are crying and whining because they cant get new clothes because their check is being garnished for back child support, then its their own fault for not keeping payments on time. Sure things happen, but you can do something about it. Did they? Probably not. Just chose not to make the payments. I ask those deadbeats who cant go out and buy themselves new clothes…How’s it feel? Now you know exactly how your own children feel.
I must say. I am a mother who lost custody of my kids and my x got them. two wonderful boys. I got behind on child support cause life just got hard and i admit i made some mistakes. But i am now back on track and have been for almost four years. I pay child support But my x lied about how much i owed him. To those who pay child support make them go through the court system because a money order is just a gift to a deceatful x. what should have been 8,000 dollars turned into 11,000 cause he told the courts i didnt pay anything. But i dont mind them getting my tax refund cause i wanna get this crazy man paid up but I believe the stimulus should go to those who are atleast trying to get caught up on child support. i pay every week and they get my tax refund. Do people that pay child support really have any rights at all. I dont mind paying the money even though i know my kids never see it. I know this because i do talk with them. But Gosh give us a break. Its about to drive me to drinking agian and i have been sobor for almost four years.
As I have explained to my daughter, child support is that…to support the child. It pays the rent the gas the electricity the food her clothes the water the laundry soap the shampoo she uses the field trips in school and the thousands of other things that I pay out. Only if there is any left over does she get it. And that was rare. Now that I have married its a whole new ball game. But it does not erase the fact that before I married, she and I lived below poverty level with no help from anyone and not one dime of child support.
I would still love to know what is up with the stimulus check which is what the blog was started for. And calling IRS seems to be of no help because the non english speaking girl had never heard of the stimulus before.
well, my ex is almost 9000 behind in support, in just a 5 year period. We get his tax returns, or a chunk of money, and then we get nothing for months. We have 2 kids together and he was suppose to pay 100 a week but now its 120 because hes behind, plus the arrears that he owes. our kids are 4 and 6 and i doubt that hell ever catch up. Hes gotton better about things in the last year or so but no where where he needs to be. Im just luck that 4 1/2 years ago I married someone who makes enough that i dont have to work, were by no means wealthy but we get by and we just had our 4th baby (total) a few weeks ago. My ex on the other hand is single w/ no other kids other than ours.